Revival Method(New Way)

[Jin]

Alrite. This is more focused on teamwork suggestion. Normally people like to Solo Grind. This prevents them from having teamwork. People must be training together in my opinion if that is what TBR wants. So I created this idea. Upon death the death clock will be longer than usual. Maybe 5 mins? But to have faster ressurection your teamate have to pray for 30 seconds. This will give you no deathtoll if you got ressurected by your teamates. But if you dont get ressurected you suffer a high death toll. Yes also one more thing. When you die your soul wont go up. Your hero's body will stay on the ground with an ankh on it until it revives. The light will shine upon the ankh (if possible) while being prayed. But if it is not under praying then most probally no light will shine upon it. Or maybe just see dark aura coming about.
P.S. to pray you must stand next to the ankh and you can start doing the pray animation . Pray animations are channeling animations. Like druid the channeling is good. TG i dont know whether it has one. Warlord maybe no and etc.

Benifits
More teamwork required. (If that is what FT really wants for TBR)
Boss fights maybe will be easier if they cooperate.
Less deathtoll if cooperated.
Training will be more long lasting and efficient.
No need to cry so much for gold .
No abusation will happen for (kills).
Solve bugs through free revival. EG mouse bug?
O.o no need to die while training and loose all ur exp gain for waves. WIII XD.


Cons
Cleric's rebirth will maybe be left out but you still can cooperate for training. Normally people use cleric's rebirth requires a lot of mana at early game so maybe this one will help cleric in my opinion.
Level Problems. (EG If you're a level 140, and all the rest of the people are less than level 50, and you're in a lvl 140 area)
If you think there are more cons then please feel free to add.

[misery21]

Hmmm nice idea...

But what if you're a level 140, and all the rest of the people are less than level 50, and you're in a lvl 140 area? Then you have to wait 5 minutes just to respawn.

[Jin]

Well you have a point. Maybe thats the part where cleric will have to take action. Besides. People play in groupings. Like Level 100+ game only. Or pros only and etc.

[iDu.Chieftain]

lol 5 minutes to revive, rofl how bout this, die in game and wait 5 minutes b4 moving ur hero, no one will play the game when the games revive time becomes excessive (enfos has 1 of the longer auto revive timers and that is annoying as balls - 2 - 3 minutes higher up on lvls)

the eziest way to stop solo grind is to add more spawns and make them better faster stronger.

[powerisevil]

And what happens if your team gets wiped out? thats a 5 min wait to revive. Yea I agree with idu ;D

[ihavenonameha]

Id hate to wait 5mins in a Hyp Run (or w/e nasty-thing-waiting-to-be-killed in 2.0)...

[Av3n]

This is forcing people to level up in groups not encouraging it IMO

-Av3n

[iDu.Chieftain]

its still not worth the 5m cd
some new guys not gunna know that go die and then boom leave cuz 5m is gay
i'm gunna be like... 5m death timer... leave

[Jin]

lol 5 minutes to revive, rofl how bout this, die in game and wait 5 minutes b4 moving ur hero, no one will play the game when the games revive time becomes excessive (enfos has 1 of the longer auto revive timers and that is annoying as balls - 2 - 3 minutes higher up on lvls)

the eziest way to stop solo grind is to add more spawns and make them better faster stronger.

You are right about the excessive. BUT what I said was MAYBE 5 Mins?

Maybe 5 mins?

This means you can shrink the duration a lil. As long as it is a lil bit more riskier than the death timer before. Maybe the death toll will be higher but death clock will be the same?

And what happens if your team gets wiped out? thats a 5 min wait to revive. Yea I agree with idu

You seldom see everyone die in the game. Normally people above level 120 can handle waves already. And again i said MAYBE 5 Minutes? So you can make it the same and death toll much worse. Or maybe you get an Honor reward for praying tht dude. Maybe every 5 prays u get one honor point or wat. Though this might be abusing i think... cause red has the command to kill. Unless red needs to wait for some time to kill the person again using the -kill command.

Id hate to wait 5mins in a Hyp Run (or w/e nasty-thing-waiting-to-be-killed in 2.0)...

If you pray and revive tht person he wont revive at the base. He will revive at the spot where he died instead. If he revives no death toll will occour. Again i said MAYBE 5 Minutes?

This is forcing people to level up in groups not encouraging it IMO

Same thing as making creeps way harder.

its still not worth the 5m cd
some new guys not gunna know that go die and then boom leave cuz 5m is gay
i'm gunna be like... 5m death timer... leave

Again i said MAYBE 5 Minutes? Damn im tired of saying MAYBE 5 Minutes? The death clock its up to you but atleast make the death more horrible in a way. Like increase of death toll and etc.

[Av3n]

Who said the creeps were any harder? FT is only scaling the creeps via attack damage + health, and surely we won't force you in-game to enter a high level area just to do a level 1 quest seriously

-Av3n

[iDu.Chieftain]

lol av3n i nvr said they were harder i said the main way to get people to group is to make the creeps harder

for gosu~gamer the death toll could make it better, but any long duration of death timer is just a turn off to alot of people (alot of impatient people out there that spam GO when they get in the game) as for the 2nd post of mine sayin 5 minutes was off the others
As for this

Damn im tired of saying MAYBE 5 Minutes

You only said it once in the previous posts so stop QQing over it

[Jin]

So its decided. We increase the deathtoll and rewards will be gained for resurrecting people through praying.

[Trade.Mark]

Oct 4, 2008 10:31:23 GMT -5 Jin said:

So its decided. We increase the deathtoll and rewards will be gained for resurrecting people through praying.

I do like gosu's idea of resurrecting players to the spot they died... That encourages teamplay since you can always start back right where you died if you have other players with you...

but idu is right in saying long spawns will be a turn off and only discourage new players from joining the community. Most players playing for the first time will die within 15 minutes or so. I get sick of waiting for dota respawn timers, let alone a few minutes.

Alternately, I would love to see a high experience toll for dying. That would prevent any low levels from following high lvl characters around for experience (or people running into boss battles and claiming they "helped")

[Jin]

Fantastico o.O. Thx for the great suggestion. Forgot about exp o.O. Sadly the exp loss must depend on the level

[smithyjones]

The suggestion would encourage teamwork, but it's a bit open to odd circumstances, such as unforeseen bugs(Hopefully this will never become a case) or people dying near bosses that can kill all who are alive.

[Jin]

I dont understand by this:

or people dying near bosses that can kill all who are alive.

Please explain it. If what you were saying is that the person that is praying for you can be killed by that certain boss then well it could be a problem. But for hyperions is quite usefull. Cause many people are like whacking him off. o.O Hades erm maybe not. P.S. you can take in pots while praying.

[Gambit]

If someone runs up next to the boss are they then unreachable untill hes dead?
Team grinding sucks more than solo grinding. Resurrecting on the spot and faster while the teams there is a great idea

[Jin]

Normally people wont do the impossible. Imagine this. A bunch of lvl 100 go pwn hyperion when they get this new revival method. Will you follow them? Same thing as this. 3 warlords lvl 130 go pwn those Akasha's at citadel. Possible? No way dude. I wont follow. No one will dare to do the impossible if they know there is such death toll. No one will risk their shit life for it o.O

[Gambit]

I guess there needs to be a death toll like 50% of your gold but I still would like to res on the spot.

[Jin]

Gold is easy to gain so nobody will be so scared to die. I prefer EXP + gold death toll.